Siman - Pesachim Daf 70

  • Ben Teima holds a chagigah is similar to pesach

The Mishnah on Daf 69b stated that a chagigah is eaten over two days and one night. The Gemara says that the Mishnah does not go according to Ben Teima, for it was taught in a Baraisa that Ben Teima says, חגיגה הבאה עם הפסח הרי היא כפסח ואינה נאכלת אלא ליום ולילה – The chagigah is brought along with the pesach on the fourteenth of Nissan and is like the pesach insofar as it may be eaten only for a single day and the immediately following night.

The Gemara asks what Ben Teima’s reason is, and relates that Rav once taught to Chiya, his son, that the pasuk taught, ולא ילין לבקר זבח חג הפסח – And you shall not leave over the offering of the chag hapesach until the morning. "זבח חג" זה חגיגה – The words, “offering of the chag” refers to the chagigah, "הפסח" זה פסח – the word, hapesach, refers to the pesach, and the end of the passuk states about both of them, לא ילין – you shall not leave over. The Gemara goes on to determine that Ben Teima holds that the chagigah is like the pesach in that it needs to be eaten roasted and must come from sheep or goats. It is inconclusive whether Ben Teima holds that the mitzvah not to break a bone of the pesach also applies to the chagigah.  

  • Yehudah ben Dortai moved away to exempt himself from bringing a chagigah on Shabbos

The Gemara brings a Baraisa that taught that Yehudah ben Dortai, along with Dortai, his son, separated from the Chochomin and went to live in the south, to exempt himself from travelling to the Beis Hamikdash on the fourteenth and offering a pesach. He held that a chagigah is also docheh Shabbos and since he knew that he would not be permitted to bring it, he moved to a distant place to exempt himself. Rav said that Ben Dortai based his opinion on the passuk, וזבחת פסח לה' אלקיך צאן ובקר – You shall slaughter the pesach to Hashem, your G-d, flocks and cattle. צאן refers to the pesach and בקר refers to the chagigah, and the passuk implies that the chagigah has the same din as the pesach. Rav Ashi explained that the passuk can be taught according to what Rav Nachman said in the name of Rabbah bar Avahu, that since the pesach cannot be brought from בקר, the passuk is coming to teach about מותר פסח יהא לדבר הבא מן הצאן ומן הבקר – the residual pesach, that it should be offered as a korban that comes from all types of flocks and cattle, meaning a shelamim.

  • The source that a chagigah is not docheh Shabbos

The Gemara asks why the Rabbanon hold that a chagigah is not docheh Shabbos. הא ודאי קרבן צבור הוא – It certainly is a communal offering in so much that it is brought en masse? Rebbe Illa’a said in the name of Rebbe Yehudah ben Safra that with reference to bringing the chagigah on Sukkos the passuk states, וחגתם אתו חג לה' שבעת ימים בשנה – And you shall celebrate it as a holiday for Hashem, seven days of the year. Now are there only seven days on which the chagigah can be offered? Clearly there are eight days of the chag and yet the passuk leaves out one day. From here we see that a chagigah is not docheh Shabbos.