Siman - Berachos Daf 42
- Making a Hamotzi on פת הבאה בכיסנין
The berachah for פת הבאה בכיסנין is generally a mezonos, since it is usually eaten as a snack, but Rav Nachman rules that if one eats enough of it to establish a meal on (קובע סעודה), the berachah would be hamotzi.
- When is a meal considered over?
The Gemara discusses the point at which a meal is considered completed, when no more food may be eaten before reciting Birkas Hamazon.
-Rav Huna says it is when one finishes eating the meal.
-Rav Pappa says it is when the bread and food are removed from the table.
-Rava says that guests are dependent on the host’s intentions, so that if the host brings additional portions to the table even after the removal of the food and bread, it may still be eaten.
-Rav says that if one is accustomed to anoint his hands with oil on finishing a meal, then as long as he has not anointed his hands he may continue eating, even after he finishes the meal, and even after the food is removed from the table.
The Gemara concludes that the halachah follows what Rav Chiya bar Ashi says in the name of Rav, that the washing of the hands after the meal (מים אחרונים) is followed immediately by Birkas Hamazon, meaning that there may be no more eating after washing מים אחרונים.
- Making a berachah for others in a group
The Mishnah infers that in order for one person in a group to make a berachah for the others, the group must be reclining, not just sitting. The Gemara later concludes that if the group verbally states their intention to eat together, then sitting is considered like reclining.
