Hatmana - Thermos

QUESTION: I would like to pour hot coffee into a thermos on Shabbos morning to take with me to shul. Is this a concern of hatmana (insulting hot food)?

ANSWER: The Chazon Ish (OC 37:32) offers two reasons why this is permitted. First, he writes that a thermos is considered a kli sheini (second vessel that was not heated on the fire). Shulchan Aruch (257:5) writes that it is permissible to do hatmana on a kli sheini. Since an action was done to cool down the food, we are not concerned that one will place it back on the fire. Second, he writes that putting something into a thermos is not hatmana. Hatmana refers to wrapping a pot with another layer, such as a towel. However, a thermos is a utensil which has heat resistant walls – just as one may pour food on Shabbos into a thick-walled pot, so too one may pour into a thermos. 

Shevet Halevi (1:93) questions these reasons. He argues that a thermos cannot be compared to a kli sheini, since the purpose of the thermos is to keep the food hot. This is not the same as pouring liquid into a kli sheini which actively cools down the food. Regarding the second point, he questions if walls of a thermos which are made specifically to insulate are the same as a thick-walled pot. 

Igros Moshe (OC 1:95) offers another rationale to justify pouring hot liquids into a thermos. Hatmana is only prohibited when the entire vessel is wrapped. Therefore, at the time when one pours hot water in the thermos there is no violation of hatmana since the top is uncovered. Putting a cover on the thermos also cannot be treated as hatmana because the purpose of doing so, in addition to maintaining the heat, is to protect the liquid from gathering dust or from spilling out.

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